Thursday, July 28, 2011

Good men

By Sarah Mayberry

Watching laundry detergent and beer ads, you might be forgiven for thinking the world is full of men who don't know a spin cycle from their elbow and who think fidelity is something they want in a stereo system but not in a relationship. At least, that's the way it seems to me sometimes. The reality, of course, is that the world is full of men who are just like us women - human, frail, flawed and afraid. Just because they don't wear all of that on their coat sleeves doesn't mean it's not there.

I think there's a fairly common mythology accepted in Western culture that men, left to their own devices, would be happy to horndog around for their entire lives and that it's only the love - or will - of a good woman that tames them. This myth tells us that men are dogs on the leash, always straining a little, but ultimately happy to have been tamed. I'd like to cry bull on that myth. When I look around me at the happy men in my life, almost all of them are in good, loving relationships with good, loving women (or men!). They're in those relationships willingly, participating fully in raising children and supporting their partner. They want it, just as much as their partner. There's no leash - or if there is, it's one of their own making, created by their own beliefs and code of honor.

I guess my point is that I don't think women are the only one's who dream of love and value it and savor it. Men do, too, even if they're not reading books that explore romance and relationships, and even if our current culture means it's not "cool" for them to stand up and shout their needs and wants from the highest mountain top. Everyone who has ever been in love with a man knows what it feels like to have him hold you tight in the dark of night - and that, my friends, is not about sex.

All of this - in a very round about way! - brings me to my August release, One Good Reason. This book is the sequel to The Last Goodbye, my February book. Jon, the hero, is brother to the hero in TLG, and the heroine is Gabby, who is the ex girlfriend of that same brother. Like all good men, Jon is searching for love and belonging. Like all of us, really. He doesn't quite know it. He's still punishing himself for what he perceives as the sins of his past. But when he meets Gabby and understands her, he knows he wants her to be a part of his life.

For her part, Gabby feels overwhelmed by Jon the moment she meets him. She has lots of excuses for that, but really she's coming to life after nearly four years in suspended animation while she recovered from loving and losing Tyler. She doesn't recognise her feelings for Jon at first, and they have a prickly, testy first few days as they circle each other. Then all that tension and misapprehension finds an outlet - ahem - and they are forced to face the reality of their feelings.

Both The Last Goodbye and One Good Reason deal with the tough issue of the aftermath of domestic violence - specifically, the violence inflicted on Tyler and Jon by their now-deceased father when they were children. Obviously, this is a serious and difficult topic, but I like to think that there's a lot of hope and love and light and laughter in both books. Jon and Tyler are strong men with good hearts, and when they meet the women who match them they know it and they hang on tight.

I'd like to give away three copies of One Good Reason today. I'd love to hear what you think makes a heroic man - in real life or in a book. What is essential in a hero? And what do you love about men?

I'm really looking forward to chatting about this with you all. So over to you!



49 comments:

Sonya said...

Perfect timing – I’ve just bought the ebook version of One Good Reason and planned to start in the morning, and was about to put in my order for the print version. (A fangirl? Me?!)

I read all romance subgenres (more or less), and love all kinds of heroes. Mega-alpha, shy, nerdy, funny. If I look at my favourites shelf it’s obvious I don’t have a favourite ‘type’. But those heroes in my keepers all seem to be memorable because they want the relationship as much as – or more than – the heroine. Maybe not straight away, but once they make that decision, it’s made.

I HATE sappiness, so I certainly don’t want my real life men or my romance heroes to be girlier about the romance than the girls are. A guy doesn’t need to be completely out there with his feelings all the time (please God, no!); when he’s committed he’s subtler, but that doesn’t mean he cares less.

I was just on an overseas trip with my mother. After about ten hours alone, my father’s text messages and emails started arriving. And arriving. And arriving. He doesn’t know what to do with himself without his wife around!

liztalley said...

Sarah - The book sounds wonderful!

I am of the opinion that men want to fall in love as much as women, they just don't express that wish except in a more physical way. My husband was raised by a mother who grew up in foster care. Affection was hard for her, so I don't think my DH got many hugs or loving embraces. Mostly it was perfunctory. Often he asks me to spoon him, not so it leads to anything more fun than a hug, but because he likes to be loved on. I treat him like he's one of my sons and hug him and drop little kisses on his head. He never says anything, but I know he loves just being loved.

The key word is "never say anything" because most guys think it's lame to admit they need love and TLC from a woman.

Good topic :)

Lisa said...

Very interesting post, Sarah. I value a man that shows he loves what's important to him. He doesn't have to want a herd of children or to have the perfect wedding. But I want to be able to see he has a truly good soul just by the way he treats his parents or siblings or friends or even pets. If he's a hard-working man--even better. It's compassion and a sense of values that I want to see in a man, and that will make me hold him in very high esteem and consider him a hero in my eyes.

Can't wait to read everyone's comments. I'm positively itching to read your new book.

Cheers,
Lisa

Linda Warren said...

Sarah,
I think guys grow up showing love physically because they don't want to be whimpy and emotional, a no-no instilled in them by their fathers and peers. They have to be strong, tough. But deep down they want the same things a woman does: a real everlasting love with someone who is always going to be there for him even after the physical high has dimmed somewhat.

Very thought provoking post.

PatriciaW said...

People always seem astonished when I tell them my husband cooks. Not sure why since most of the world's chefs are male, right? But we split the cooking and laundry duties, even the bathroom cleaning duties. He likes to vacuum; I'll mop. A guy who doesn't expect to be waited on hand and foot is pretty heroic to me, as are men who don't mind being vulnerable without being wimps and who listen and understand the need to talk things through.

Debra Salonen said...

Patricia, my hubby and I are just the opposite: he mops, I vacuum. ;-)

I don't care what the chore or problem, a hero steps up and does what needs to be done. That includes changing dirty diapers. And sometimes they look preposterous doing these things, but that only makes me love them more.

Excellent post and insightful comments! Can't ask for more from a blog.

Deb

ClaudiaGC said...

Sarah, I love your post! It's so true! I don't think men want to have only short-term relationships or don't want to raise kids. No, they just want the same things we want but I think it is much harder for them to express all that without sounding wimpy.
My boyfriend meets his friends every other Saturday to watch soccer. Some weeks ago we saw each other the whole week only in bypassing due to crazy work schedules. That Saturday he came home after not even an hour and I asked him why, and he said some games were cancelled. I found later out that they were not cancelled and asked him why he lied to me. And he said he missed me so much the whole week he wanted to spent the day rather with me than his buddies and he didn't want to sound sappy so he told me a white lie. Isn't that cute? :)

Laney4 said...

What do I love about men? (Snork! I better not say!) Suffice to say, it could be one of their looks or even their smell! It has never been about how handsome they are, as beauty is indeed in the eyes of the beholder.
I am fortunate to have many heroes in my life, all for various reasons.
My husband will always be my hero (as he should be). He listens (to me and others) and then he acts upon those discussions. I don't nag him to do things. I leave a list and when he gets around to it, that's fine. He does the same with me.
My dentist of 30 years is my hero because he is so gentle and understanding. He won't charge for certain things because he "can't sleep at night" if he does.
My badminton partner is a hero because he stands up to people if he feels a wrong has been committed. This week he "defended me" when he felt that the opposition was smashing the birdie at me on purpose. I was willing to give that player the benefit of the doubt (even though I was hit VERY hard in the forehead and the chest within the first 5 minutes of the game), but my partner approached that player as soon as the game was over and basically said not to do it again. (Well, he said a lot more, but we'll leave it at that.)
The bottom line is that a hero does something because it needs to be done, whether he wants to do it or not ... whether it's dangerous or not, in some cases (like when they're doing their jobs).

Anonymous said...

Hi Sarah! Great post! I love Alpha males. But the Alpha males that are really big teddy bears. Their is nothing hotter then watching a sexy Marine in cammies changing a diaper or rocking a baby. See this all comes back to why I married a Marine, lol! My husband always wanted marriage and family just as much as I did. Which is a good thing since its been almost 12 years and we have 3 kids and are considering having one more. :) He's my Hero weather he's working hard for our family, simply mowing the yard or playing hide and seek with the kids.

Have a wonderful day!!!

Alina

Snookie said...

My husband is my hero. He holds my hand in public or in private. He hugs me whenever he feels like it. He cleans the house and cooks and loves me for who I am.

Sarah I loved the Last Goodby and am looking forward to reading One Good Reason.

Julie Hilton Steele said...

Men who stand by their women in all sorts of circumstances. I have one of those.

Men who are good fathers, participate in their children's lives and model being a good father. I have one of those.

Men who aren't in heroic type jobs but do their jobs to support their families, who model being good workers and employers. I have one of those.

Looking foward to reading your books!

Peace, Julie

Summer said...

I like an easygoing hero, someone who brings a sense of calm to a moment's that's anything but.

chey said...

I like a hero who is there for his heroine.

Sarah Mayberry said...

hi sonya. I love watching couples who have been together for a long time cope with little breaks from each other like you described - often very revealing and endearing! Hope you enjoy the read.

Sarah Mayberry said...

Liz, your story about your hubby breaks my heart. Everyone needs hugs!!!! My man and I are very affectionate - and at least half of the time he initiates that closeness.

Sarah Mayberry said...

Lisa, I think the notion of judging a man by the way he treats the things he cares about is a great one - and often very revealing. As we all seem to agree, just because men don't articulate their needs the way we do doesn't mean they don't ask for what they want in different ways,

Sarah Mayberry said...

Hi Linda. That's so true, that men are taught and trained to be "tough". I watch my BIL do it with his boys. I understand why, since the world (and espec. high school!) can be a cruel place, but it's hard to watch them suck all that emotion and upset inside. The balance is that he's a very loving, affectionate and playful father and I think the boys get a lot out of that.

Sarah Mayberry said...

Patricia W, your husband gets the elephant stamp and the gold stars this week. What a gem! My man is the vacuumer AND mopper in our house - but I get the bathrooms! I think men who are ready, willing, and able to step up and be responsible for themselves are VERY sexy and heroic! Who wants to be cleaning up after someone all the time?

Sarah Mayberry said...

Deb - you hit it right on the head. A hero doesn't wait to be asked. He doesn't try to sidle out of something.He doesn't forget. He does what needs to be done. And if that involves doing something that's traditonally "women's work", he still does it because his sense of his own masculinity isn't so fragile that it will dissolve at the touch of an apron or diaper.

Sarah Mayberry said...

Claudia, I can almost see your guy shuffling his feet as he admitted to a yearning to be with you. Sometimes that very male refusal to articulate directly what they want or need drives me crazy, but other times I find it so damned endearing - it's definitely one of the things that make men different from us women.

Sarah Mayberry said...

Wow, Team Laney has some serious fire power. A great hubby who does stuff, a dentist who doesn't charge like a wounded bull and a friend who has your back. At the end of the day, men are people, and we do have far more in common with each other than we have differences. I must say, I've been fortunate enough to not have to need my man to stick up for me too many times in life, but the one time he did I can remember feeling very loved and protected. Now, that's heroic!

Sarah Mayberry said...

Alina, you had me at the man in cammies changing the diaper. We watched the first part of a documentary covering the selection procedure for the SAS (Australia's elite fighting force) the other night, and watching these men (the best of the best from all parts of defence forces) get put through the emotional, psychological and physical wringer was grueling. Gave me a whole new respect for their mental toughness - and, ahem, they looked pretty nice without their shirts on, too! You have a great day, too.

Sarah Mayberry said...

Snookie, that man is a keeper! I still get excited when I hear my man's car in the driveway. He's my best friend, and boy does he make me laugh. Hope you enjoy One Good Reason.

Sarah Mayberry said...

Hi Julie. I love that bit about men who aren't in heroic jobs. Most men aren't - most women, too - and the man who does what needs to be done to support himself and his family is a real hero, no matter what his job is. The world is full of quiet, good men.

Sarah Mayberry said...

Hi Summer. Yes, the hero who can keep his head when all about are losing theirs is a most needful thing! That sense of confidence - that no matter what is going down, he can and will come to grips with it - is incredibly attractive and reassuring.

Sarah Mayberry said...

Hi Chey. I, too, love a hero who has a heroine's back. Even if it's just sitting and listening as she downloads about her day. A man who demonstrates that he cares about a woman's happiness is a heroic man indeed.

Jessica Lemmon said...

My husband is one of those men who wanted to be in love. Wanted to be married. Wanted a home and family life (even if that family is two dogs.)

I've realized the Western expections since, of all things, we adopted a vegan diet. I work with a lot of men who seem to think that I browbeat my husband into giving up meat and cheese. After all, men EAT MEAT. Women eat vegetables.

I continually get asked what my husband "thinks of this whole veggie thing." They are always shocked to hear that he's far more health-conscious than me, and we embarked on this journey together. Nothing is keeping him from eating a cow, certainly not me!

I recently started writing romance last year and realized after reading an article you wrote that it was okay for men and women to be on the same emotional plane, and yet, still retain their manliness.

My husband is a kind, caring, gentle, funny, hardworking, sexy man. AND he eats his vegetables! Yeah, I hit the jackpot. ;)

Sarah Mayberry said...

Hey Lemmony! Lovely to see you over here. Your hubby sounds wonderful. Like yours, mine is far more health conscious than me. He exercises more, doesn't drink, eats all the right foods - and there's nothing remotely effeminate about him. Guys get so much pressure to "man up" and "harden up" and all this kind of rubbish. As I said in my blog, in the dark hours of the night I think we are all much more honest with each other than we could ever be with the world in general. And I guess that's what true intimacy is about.In a complete side bar, I cannot stop thinking about So I Married an Axe Murderer after out twitter chat the other day. But can't find our copy!!! Must have lent it to someone...

Jessica Lemmon said...

Noooo! You must find it! *gasp* ;)

And, yeah, my husband is always trying to get me to go on a bike ride and I'm all *grumble* "I just wanna read!"

Sarah Mayberry said...

Exactly. Exercise is over-rated. Unfortunately, so is my bottom after a winter of too much apple pie and chocolate, so I allow myself to be cajoled into my gym gear and dragged out of the house. May have to make a trip to the shops to buy a new copy of Axe Murderer. Feel naked without it in the house. Like roof is missing or something...

Joan Kilby said...

Sarah, love what you say about holding tight in the dark night, because that's when people's greatest fears and insecurities come out. What I love in a hero is a strong man who can show his vulnerability. Men are trained from birth it seems to be strong. And we want them strong! But we also want to know that our men can occasionally admit to not being perfect, not always being right, not always knowing what to do - and most importantly needing the women in their lives just as much as we need them. Can't wait to read One Good Reason!

Jackie S. said...

Great post; and enjoyed the comments. I will have to say "ditto" to Julie H.S. comments...except maybe I should say the "grandfather" word in the second one!! So anxious to read your book!

Joan Kilby said...

Just wanted to add, I watched a beautiful talk on ted.com the other day by Brene Brown about the Power of Vulnerability. What she's saying is, I believe, what romance novels are all about.

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/brene_brown_on_vulnerability.html

BrooklynShoeBabe said...

I think a heroic man is one who fights against his flaws and works to become a better man than he is whether that means just eating healthier or not becoming what society thinks he should become (say an abuser because his father was one). A heroic man understands it is the small and daily things that keep relationships going strong--honesty, transparency, loyalty, communication. Sure dramatic gestures are great but one can't live on dramatic gestures alone.

My husband has this way he puts his hand on my shoulder that says I love you, I support you, and everything will be alright better than any words. That gesture reminds me how much of a hero he's been in our marriage--we've both suffered through things that might have made someone else run but he fought that urge and stuck around through the bad times. Sure, things aren't perfect but they are still pretty good.

Sarah Mayberry said...

Hi Joan. Love that bit about being able to admit they need us, too. Being vulnerable with each other is such a gift, but it takes a lot of trust, too. And guts! Will be checking out your link ASAP. Hope your words are flowing strongly!

Sarah Mayberry said...

Hi Jackie S. Yes, Julie nailed it very nicely, didn't she! Hope you enjoy the read when you get to it!

Sarah Mayberry said...

Hi Brooklyn Shoe Babe (love that name by the way! I have a minor shoe fetish of my own...) Surviving the sheer mundanity of day to day is a challenge for any marriage/relationship - and then you get one of those scary times when life is anything but mundane and the fabric of your relationship is REALLY tested. Your man sounds lovely - love the "hands on shoulders" thing. One of my favourite sayings is "listen to what people do as well as what they say". Sometimes actions give us things and convey more emotion than words never will.

Anonymous said...

I think a heroic man is loyal, caring, and not afraid to stand up for his beliefs.

Diana

Karina Bliss said...

Hey Sarah, you book is winging its way via book depository as we speak (let's hope new owner Amazon doesn't make changes to free international postage). Quiet good men - that phrase really resonated with me. Love guys who can quietly get things done without making a fuss or expecting praise. I live with one,in fact.
Karina

Sarah Mayberry said...

Diana, loyalty is one of those great unsung virtues, isn't it? So often overlooked, but a man who stands by those he loves and what he believes in is a man I want by my side, that's for sure. Thanks for dropping by.

Sarah Mayberry said...

Hi Karina. I'm praying that BD doesn't change that shipping policy, too. I love getting regular parcels in the mail! I will be downloading your latest the moment this book I'm working on is done. A treat to look forward to! Sounds like there are lots of lovely,good, quiet men out there. Lucky us!

Laura Russell said...

Hi Sarah,
I saw a cartoon once titled 'Real Romance Novels' and the title of one book was 'Men who do laundry.' I like guys who get right in there when they're taking care of everything.

Jo's Daughter said...

Hi Sarah,
Read your book the last goodbye & loved it!

I believe that a heroic man is honest and true. He's capable of placing others, before his own needs. When there is fear, uncertainty or tragedy & he rather be somewhere else he sticks around to support you.

marybelle said...

A hero puts others before himself. A man who you know you can depend on.

Sarah Mayberry said...

Hi Laura. A man who does laundry is a man who is welcome in my home! My man is pretty good about all that stuff. It's just the two of us, so it's pretty hard to justify either of us letting the other clean up after our personal mess, so we sort of bog in and get it done (mostly) between us.

Sarah Mayberry said...

Hi Jo, Glad you enjoyed the read! My work here is done...

I think men and women who place others first are very heroic. This is making me think of the hero in my November book, actually. He makes a very selfless decision in regard to the heroine, and fortunately it pays off for him, but its the act of that sacrifice that affects the turn around... But that's November, and this is about One Good Reason...

Sarah Mayberry said...

Hi Marybelle. Having someone who has your back is what it's all about, isn't it? that phrase covers so many things - all of the virtues and qualities that we've all been talking about today. Thanks for popping in to chat.

JV said...

I love a man who is intelligent, protective, gentle, and kind, a man who can't stand for someone he cares about to be hurt. I love a man who will own up to his feelings without shame, like when my hubby and I watch a movie that he initially disdained as a chick flick and yet I see him dab at his eyes during scenes that are sad.

He doesn't feel like he's whipped or tied to my apron strings, but he just enjoys being with me. He's always there to help, too, like the day he took a day off work to help me deliver a cake I'd made for a retirement party. He lets me know in small ways every day how much he appreciates me, like calling me every day after lunch and thanking me for making it for him. Every day.

I love a man who, even when his daughter is in whatever obnoxious stage of development causes her to treat him as though he's too much of an embarrassment to be around, continues faithfully to love her and to rush to assist her whenever she needs him. He even became a parent member of the Girl Scouts without blinking an eye so that he could participate with her in troope events. (Fortunately, she is finally outgrowing that phase of development and is starting to realize once again what a great father she has.)

In short, a true hero is a stable, reliable, committed, and loving man just like my husband!

Sarah Mayberry said...

JV, I love how your husband rings you every day to say thank you for the lunch you packed him. It is utterly adorable and speaks of so much love, appreciation and respect. Hope your family is having a great weekend.