By Wanda Ottewell, Senior Editor SuperromanceWe’ve been chatting here together for a while now, right? We’re comfortable together, have shared some laughs…a few secrets. We know each other well enough to let down our hair, yes? Good. Because it’s time to talk about S-E-X.
No, not that part of sex. As close as we are, there really is some personal stuff I don’t want to know, LOL. I mean the role sex plays in a Harlequin Superromance book.
Remember in my first blog I talked about variety? How the editors who work on this series look for different types of stories, different tones, different voices? Well, the same is true for the sensuality level. And no, I don’t necessarily mean we have to see the hero and heroine do that thing in that place—especially if it’s not really possible to put those body parts in those positions.
I mean that the some of our stories are sweet with little or no sex. Some sex happens behind a closed—and locked and barred and bolted—bedroom door.
Other stories are, well, much steamier. As in, is-it-hot-in-here?-I-think-I-need-a-cigarette steamy.
So with that kind of range, how can we ever guide writers about what to include, or readers about what to expect, from our books?
In my mind, it’s a matter of intent and degree. First, the intent. The sex in a Superromance book isn’t for the sake of sex. It’s not gratuitous—there simply to titillate the reader. The sex needs to bring the hero and heroine together, even if it complicates their relationship. The sex serves a purpose—other than physical gratification—in the story. It improves situations and might set up the characters for a bigger fall later. Or it makes the situation worse and the characters have to work to improve it. It should be the next logical step for the relationship and it should move the relationship forward. (That’s true even if the characters just met and this is a one-night stand.) Above all, the sex has to be accompanied by emotion in the characters.
Now, for the degree. A description that you would read in an erotic romance novel probably wouldn’t fit in a Superromance novel. That’s probably above the degree of explicitness we’re comfortable with. We try to avoid euphemisms—I like to think we’re all old enough to call parts for what they are. And I don’t know about you, but some euphemisms are so cringe-worthy, I put the book down. I do like there to be some physical connection between the hero and heroine because sex is such a fundamental part of life and love and romance that a story feels incomplete without it.
There is another aspect to sex that I’m barely touching on here. And it’s a big enough component that it could be its own discussion: sensual tension. I’ve read books where the sensual tension is so high, I didn’t notice that the hero and heroine almost never touched each other, shared only a handful of kisses, and there were only one or two love scenes. Whew! Sex does not have to be about Tab A in Slot B. Good sensual tension is showing the characters’ awareness of each other, but not in the expected or stereotypical ways (you know the ways I mean, the descriptions you’ve read so often you could quote them in your sleep). It’s building the sense of wanting in the characters so that the reader is on the edge of her seat waiting for them to finally give in. And when the sensual tension leads easily and naturally into the sex, it rarely feels gratuitous or unnecessary. Without sensual tension…well, I gotta ask why bother? Maybe some of the Superromance authors can be persuaded to share their secrets for creating tension….
As always, I want to hear your opinions about sex in romance novels. When is it too much? When is it not enough? Do you skip over it? Do you earmark those pages to return to? I suspect this topic will also generate a lot of questions for me to answer about Superromance, so bring it on!
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I'm going to comment as a reader, not as a writer. I get frustrated when the bedroom door slams in my face. All that build up and then...nothing? But I also am not a fan of the "she saw stars and comets and rainbows as she leapt toward ecstasy" school of love scene, either. (Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I've never seen a comet in my life. Stars, either, for that matter). I like sex scenes in romances to be real and sexy and funny and human. And good sexual tension will keep me reading into the small hours. Some of my favorite sex scenes are in Susan Elizabeth Philips books. The first time her characters Do It is almost always memorable and always a great pay off to the build up.
Sexy Silver Seniors Stroll Sunny Sands : )
There is a universal, idealized notion of romantic love, and then there is the reality of the physical union of human bodies. If we are lucky, the romantic notion and the physical reality combine for a loving, sensual relationship. Everyone’s own experience with love and sex is unique, always more or less than we expected, and seldom what we had envisioned for ourselves. As children, what we observe of “grown up” relationships greatly affects our perception of love and sex. In my case, my mother and father separated before I was born, and never saw each other again. No one had the “birds and bees” talk with me. I learned the little that I knew from health class and from the other kids at school. Of course, there were always the romance reads, filling my head with romantic dreams and sexual situations which were beyond my understanding. Even now, some of those situations are beyond my understanding. More than once, I have been unable to imagine the successful outcome of a sexual position as described in a "romance read". Every time this happens, I can only think of one word: "TWISTER"! Maybe the TWISTER game mat and a copy of the Kama Sutra would be a helpful educational guide combo : )
Romance novels offer the hope that true love is attainable, and “Happily Ever After” can be ours. They also provide an escape from everyday life. Whether it’s “heart with heat” or “heat with heart”, we can view the romantic entanglements and sensual experiences of the characters and imagine ourselves in their place. No matter what I’m reading, I look for well-developed, involving characters and a detailed, interesting story line. You can find all of these things by reading romance novels. Whether you search for the familiar or the exotic, chaste love or deep sensuality, you will find it all in “romance novels”. I read a variety of genres and heat levels. The dynamics of the relationship between the couple, and the plot developments of the story line really determine the level of eroticism in the love story. A very skilled storyteller can create sensual awareness and sexual tension that is strongly felt and quite potent without explicit detail. Other stories are raw, intense and immediate and therefore are well told in more graphic language. I read both, and enjoy them both! To each his or her own ; )
As sung by my Gran's favorite singer, Dean Martin:
You're nobody til somebody loves you.
You're nobody til somebody cares!
You may be king, you may possess the world and it's gold,
But gold won't bring you happiness when you're growing old!
The world still is the same, you'll never change it,
As sure as the stars shine above.
You're nobody til somebody loves you
So find yourself somebody to love!
There’s nothing I hate more than a ‘closed door’ romance. Not because I want to read about lots of sex, but I figure that I graduated from sixth grade many many years ago, and pretending sex is not a part of a relationship is to deny the one and only thing that marks the difference between friendship and romantic love. When the hero and heroine close the door on us and the next scene begins with, “The hero woke up at dawn,” I want to tear out my hair! Even if they pretend they’re oh so wholesome, we all know what you were doing in there!
Writers who avoid sex in their books make me feel as though I’m a child again and that it’s something dirty we should be ashamed of.
Something that does annoy me is the current trend in romance towards words that used to only be acceptable in erotica. Even writers who a couple of years ago had very tame sex scenes – if any at all – are suddenly using hardcore euphemisms in their mainstream romances. I wish that trend would die out because it’s worse than in the Eighties when every guy had a ‘manroot’ or a ‘sword’!
I’ve read a lot of Superromances recently –some of them a few years old. One I finished the other day didn’t even have the two meet until 34% of the way through the book (my Kindle told me)! They kissed at 71%, and had sex at 94% - because the story was so focused on a baby storyline. I’m sorry, but that’s not good enough for a ROMANCE ! I don’t want babies, I want romance.
The best Superromances are those that build the tension by throwing the hero and heroine together for a while before they get to bed. I want to see their relationship develop above and beyond Aunt Maude and her chronic illness or the cutesy foster kid the heroine wants to rescue.
I never intentionally bend a page, but, believe me, I know where the wonderful, steamy scenes are in my favorite books. I tend to love the steamy, sensual romances. In fact, when I'm in a bookstore and am drawn to a book, (dare I say it?) I tend to open it to somewhere in the middle where I expect to find either a sexual encounter or a good deal of sexual tension. I want to know that the tension isn't going to fizzle out and that I'm not going to be let down somewhere in the middle.
About the only times that sex scenes are too much for me are A) when I just cannot feel the connection between the characters and B) when I have to stop in the middle of a sex scene and say, "Wait a minute! Is that even possible?" In the former case, the sex is gratuitous and lacks the emotionalism and sensuality that make the story swoon-worthy. Without the emotional connection, it's just an anatomy/physiology lesson. In the latter case, if I stop in the scene and wonder whether the hero has too many hands or think that he would need forearms like Popeye's to accomplish what was written, it pulls me out of the story.
I far prefer stories that do not close the bedroom door. Usually, in those cases, I feel that the author cheated. I do occasionally read romances where I know there will be either a closed bedroom door or no physical relationship even suggested, but it requires a lot of skill for those authors to build the emotional connection without sex and without making me feel cheated. I really hate when sex has been teased and hinted and, like another commenter said, then you read, "The next morning..." I find those types of stories extremely frustrating!
P.S. I love your little old couple. They may not have the bodies we daydream about, but I think they're sweet together!
LOL Talk about pictures being worth a 1,000 words!
As a reader, I'll skip the love scenes if the situation feels at all gratuitous. To me the only sex scenes worth reading are the ones that impact the relationship. And the ones that come after a nice build-up of sexual tension.
And if you have really good sexual tension between the characters it can be frustrating to not be able to see that peak - as Sarah mentioned. I've had so many readers say they were disappointed when the door closed on Roberto and Mallory in my NASCAR book, FROM THE OUTSIDE.
As a writer, the sex scenes are for me some of the hardest to get right. Making the scene as unique as the couple's relationship, I think is the key.
WOW, I am gonna let you ladies continue this....I will read but not comment!!!
What a great post. And I've laughed several times as I've read through the responses. Manroot? LOL. Yeah. I've never called it that.
As a reader, I usually read the first sex scene because it impacts the relationship so much. Nothing like the first time. But the others? I usually skim them.
As a writer, I tend to follow my "reader" likes and do only one sex scene in the book. I try really hard, like Helen, to make it fit the characters. That's important. The sex needs to be different in every book. No recycled sex scenes.
I agree that closing the door sometimes is a let down. When you are vested in characters, you want to go through that important transition in their lives with them and feel cheated when that door slams in your face. But, I'd rather an author slam the door and allow me to imagine the rapture going on inside rather than write a bad love scene. If you're an author and you stink at writing sex, go ahead and lock me out. I've read some bad ones where I've wondered if the author has even had sex before. Um, it was painful to read and I felt sorry for the h/h.
And you don't see comets and stars, Sarah? Oh, that's a pity. LOL.
First, I'd like to know where you got that picture of me and my hubby. We haven't been strolling on the nude beach for ages.
But, seriously, one of the reasons I love Supers is the fact the sex isn't gratuitous. I love getting to know the characters and feel their desire--even if being together isn't the right thing in their lives at that time.
My first Super didn't have an on-page sex scene. The sexual tension had to sustain the emotional story arc--and believe me, it would have been a lot easier to drop them in bed and be done with it. But some of the conflict stemmed from both characters' need to put the emotionally fragile children in the story first. I never got any letters complaining about this absence of on-page sex, but that was 11 years ago. Reader expectations are probably different now.
I will admit, as a reader, I have skipped over sex scenes. Never in Supers, but in certain lines and genres I'd get to a point where my response to *another* sex scene was..."Do you people have a problem? There are 12-step programs for this kind of thing."
And I can honestly say my editor has never once asked me to change a sex scene. One of my favorite moments came during a revision call when I asked her, "So...you're okay with the bondage?" And my daughter-in-law, who happened to walk into my office at that exact moment, dropped the pile of papers she was carrying and let out a shocked, "Bondage?" Priceless!!
Great blog, Wanda.
Deb
My eyes! That's a heckuva a way to start the morning! Ahem, a warning perhaps? LOL! (j/k)
I love sex. Oh, I love sex in books, too. (Sorry, feeling my oats this morning.)
In all seriousness, I agree, a love scene has to serve a purpose otherwise, it's simply there to fill pages and I've definitely spotted a few of those instances as a reader (not in Supers, of course). I think it has to be appropriate for the characters, too. In my current release, there's no love scene but there's plenty of sexual tension between the two characters. But honestly, it wouldn't have been appropriate because of Skye's situation. But when knockin' boots is appropriate, I settle in and have fun. What is fabulous about sex (whether between the pages or the sheets) is that there are so many different scenarios. And let's face it, not all booty calls are sexy! Sometimes, it's awkward and definitely not soul shattering. I love that because that's REAL. Sometimes it's just about scratching an itch, other times it's beautiful and amazing. In my May Super, there's a love scene that's definitely...different. LOL! And honestly, it's my favorite! As in real life, our characters need to be able to laugh at themselves at times. Right?
Anyway, stepping off my soapbox!
Excellent post!
I do enjoy some sex in books but if it gets to be to much then I will start skipping over it. To me to much is page after page of nothing but sex. But I do enjoy a good sex scene or two in a book.
Hi Wanda! I'm gonna go ahead and just say it, I like sex scenes. I can't stand books that close the door and leave you hanging. It's just wrong, lol! I have to agree that the scene has to be done right so the sex doesn't sound fake, cause we all hate fake sex, lol! But I want the sex. It doesnt have to be raunchy or use certain words people dont like, but it has to be there. Ok just my opinion, lol!
Have a wonderful day!!!
My take on the situation is a little different. I don't get irked when an author closes the bedroom door, but I do get extremely frustrated when the after-sex scene is skipped. Those scenes are some of my favorites to write (and read) because they tell so much more about the couple's relationship than mere sex. Are they awkward with each other afterward? Loving? Pulling back? Regretful? We can't forget about the buildup to the sex, but I'd rather read about the post-coital than the foreplay.
Hello, all!
Glad to be back with you! And good to see the discussion happening.
As a reader, I agree with most of you that I think the sex scenes have a place in the books. Of course, there is such a thing as too much of a good thing! Have definitely read those books that have me thinking, "What? They're doing it *again*?" Or, "Great. Here's the shower scene. Oh, and now it's the on-the-table scene. And, hey. Let's not forget the on-the-stairs, that-is-going-to-leave-a-mark scene."
As an editor, I try to respect the author's choice and voice. Better a closed door than a scene that's awkward and uncomfortable and sure to have the reader out of the story in no time flat. That doesn't stop me from asking, "Do you think we should see this on the page?" But I don't force the issue.
I notice none of the authors have revealed their secrets for creating sensual tension....
Wanda
PS--I can't take credit for the cute couple in the photo (they are sweet, aren't they?). Sarah found them so she deserves the appreciation.
I like sex scenes, but I don't really have a problem with the bedroom door closing either, for me, it depends on what feels right for the characters and the tone of the story as to whether one or the other works.
As a reader I appreciate sexual tension that has me screaming at the hero and heroine to "just kiss already!" The sex has to be intrinsic to the story or the writer loses me. As a writer I have to go back over my manuscript several times to weave in the tension--it's there in my mind when I'm writing but doesn't always make it on the page the first run-through. And sadly, readers are not mind-readers. It's my job to deliver the sexual tension and the level of sensuality that fits the characters and their relationship. It's different each story.
I read different lines because sometimes I want a story with a closed door and sometimes I want the hot stuff. I don't skip sex scenes but have read books where they seem to be filling up the pages for no reason other than than just that. So if I read a Love Inspired, I don't expect the same level as in a Presents or Desire. When I read Supers, I know some authors are more comfortable with the open door than others. I just want a well written story that takes me away to a wonderful happy ever after. If I get a few laughs or tears along that journey I think the author has done the job whether or not there is SEX in the book.
Hi!
This is a great discussion. Good examples and insights.
How to create sensual tension is a very interesting question. I think it helps to write characters who are aware of what, specifically, is attractive about their love interest. (And I'm not talking about a body part, although being good-looking never hurts.)
I think part of sexual attraction is the story we invent around the other person. We fantasize and the more daring and exciting the fantasy we build is, the more tension. If I let him XX then I will finally feel/be/understand/forget YY.
As a writer, I can't just put two very hot people who are interested in physical intimacy on the page and expect them to have tension. They might have great sex, but the tension will be all physical.
They need to have a fantasy about a specific, exciting-to-them experience or feeling that they think the other character can give them. I think there should be something dangerous or scary about that fantasy experience. (Not physically dangerous, but emotionally or in the context of their sense of self, habits, boundaries, etc.) They should know they are crossing a line and there's no turning back.
I think that "danger" introduces the push and pull of "I want to, but I can't" and that ups the tension.
I hope this makes sense?
Ellen
I tend to hate it when the bedroom door closes. I especially like the first time the couple is having sex. It shows the skills of the author to bring a lot of feeling and understanding into it. And I like when they are talking during it and have a laugh as well.
I hate reading stories with sex as fillers. Like Helen, I skip over sex scenes that don't seem to belong or fit the story. I don't mind when the bedroom door closes. I have an imagination, I don't need everything spelled out explicitly for me. I also don't mind reading sex scenes that totally fit the storyline and the characters. I also don't mind reading books that have a lot of sensual tension with no sex scenes. I don't like erotica and therefore don't read it, so I wouldn't expect to find erotic sex in a super or a romance or an american or some of the other lines. I do read the occasional Blaze from some of my fav authors. When reading contemporary romance, I want the body parts to be called by their names or the colloquial names. On the other hand when reading historicals, I don't mind names such as sword or manroot. They were likely the colloquial name for the time period.
Having said all that, I believe you can have good romance without explicit sex scenes. it doesn't bother me to have minimal or no sex in a book. What keeps my interest is a good storyline with good sensual tension.
By the way, love the picture :)
Great post. As a reader, I particularly resonated with Liz's comments re: the first sex scene a charm. Subsequent ones I sometimes skip.
I read a terrific article once by Alicia Rasley who said find your heroine's secret romantic fantasy, based on her unfulfilled needs, and then have the hero fulful it.
The nurturer might want to be taken care of - give her a guy who's only concerned with her needs in bed.
The secretary might want freedom and powerer - give her a man who encourages her inner dominatrix.
Ther overworked single mom wants to be pampered. Bring some luxury into the lovemaking, let them have all the time in the world.
I'll have what Alicia's having.
Karina
Making the scene as unique as the couple's relationship, I think is the key
I totally agree with Helen on this. I try to make sure each love scene is unique to those characters and I keep in mind their histories and back stories, especially the heroine's.
I love sex scenes that amp up the conflict between the hero and heroine or bring about a big change somehow.
Wow, that's some wake up call for 3 o'clock in the afternoon!
One of the best sex scenes I ever read was in a Teresa Medeiros historical...the hero got his, but the heroine didn't get hers. It added a bit of realism to the scene.
Not that I would know anything about that :)
Sorry I can't remember the title.
Manroot? I use that term all the time when I teach my sex education class. I also teach about the flower of a woman’s being. Or her “center”, as I prefer to call it.
But in all honesty, I understand why, given the mores of the time, authors had to resort to those terms. And I’m so glad we’re past that, because those terms always yanked me out of the story.
I think building sexual tension is one of the most difficult things to tackle in a story. The reader has to see how right the hero and heroine are for each other long before the characters can accept it. And while the characters are working through their issues, discarding baggage, feeling the attraction, even though it’s impossible to be together, the reader is going, “Come on, come on…figure it out…come on…” Not an easy task.
Great post, Wanda and like Deb, the photo reminds me of one of the benefits of living far from civilization.
OMG, Look at the photos! I don't have problems with too little. If the door closes and we go into POV, saying they were satisfied and happy, I'm happy!
Wonderful post and comments. The photo gave me a good chuckle ;).
Ellen and Jeannie's comments struck a chord with me. I think they made really excellent points.
Sexual tension is my one of my favorites. The more tension, the bigger the payoff when they actually have sex. I do feel cheated sometimes with behind closed doors sex after a big build up. Multiple encounters are okay especially if each one adds something new to the story, but I do like the emotional connection too and I get bored when the whole story is non-stop sex. That said, I would still enjoy a book if there wasn't any sex, if the story was strong enough and I was invested in the characters.
Interesting topic, Wanda! And a great photo, Sarah. Sexual tension is so important. The trick is a great sex scene IMO is to maintain the tension even while they're having sex. To do that I try to hark back to the central conflict, either through dialogue or thoughts or even a physical object that is symbolic of the obstacles. It doesn't have to be a big deal, just a reminder to the character and the reader, of why these two shouldn't be together. And once the obstacle is re-introduced, do they go ahead anyway or pull back? It depends on where we are in the story. I also like to try to make the characters learn something about themselves during/after a sex scene, something they wouldn't have known if not for that particular partner.
I came back to read everyone's comments as I didn't have time at work. Thanks everyone for sharing their secrets.
And don't forget we draw for a Super 6 pack from today's comments!
What a photo! I like reading sex scenes that do not use familiar phrases and especially like sequence to be unpredictable. I'm learning how to write them- the suggestions here are very helpful. Ellen's idea about the characters crossing a boundary, Darlene's insight about post-coital scenes, Jeannie's hint about sexual tension from the reader's perspective, and Joan's note about keeping the central conflict present. Thanks for making me more aware of these intricacies.
First of all love the photograph. I have to agree about euphemisms being cringe-worthy at times. I don't need SEX in a book to enjoy it, but when it is there I want more story than sex. (My grown up son just walked in and read my last line. I'm off to explain why I am talking about sex online.)
This has been a great discussion, everyone! I've been quiet (only two posts...that has to be some kind of record for me), but believe me when I say I've been noting the responses and pondering what you've been saying. I find the insights from readers and authors invaluable.
As with so much about this genre, seems we all are willing to go where the stories take us as long as the characters engage us and the journey makes sense for who they are.
Thanks to the authors who offered up their secrets and perspectives! Darlene, your comment about the post-coital scene really has me thinking. And you're right...that's an excellent opportunity for the author to show how the sex changed the relationship for better or worse. Lots to think about!
Until next time...
Wanda
I'm coming late to the discussion, but I want to vote with the group that appreciates the open door policy regarding sex scenes. I read a variety of heat levels, but generally find that I like closed door books less.
As others have mentioned, I like it when there is a purpose to a sex scene and you can see how the relationship grows out of it. For example, the difference between a one night stand and a time when the h/h have realized they love each other.
There are also just some sex scenes that need to happen. For example, in Karina Bliss' Here Comes the Groom, the scene together after Jo has finally told Dan she had a mastectomy? I don't think there was any way you could have closed the door on that scene and still told the story!
That scene from Here Comes the Groom made me cry, and other books make me laugh. I love the variety, but it's best when it fits the story, and is actualy vital to it!
Coming very late (darned Day Job!) to the conversation.
As a reader, the thing I want most is the emotional connection. I like the bedroom door to stay open, but I don't want detailed descriptions of the mechanics of it all. I want to know what they are feeling, how it's impacting them, how this is going to chnage how they see themselves and each other.
One of the things I like about Supers is, they get that balance right. Even the hotter ones are still all about the emotion, rather than tab A in slot B.
As a writer, I know how hard it is to do that!
As many of the other commentors have said - need the emotional connection between the characters for there to be romance in the sex scenes. Without that it can so easily cross the line away from romance.
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